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Dabomber
02-28-2001, 08:38 PM
There has been change in my diet.. i used to have 40:30:30 Ratio but now i have 30:60:10 ratio of Pro/Fat/Carb.. it will be basically CKD diet..

M1- 3 strips of Bacon, 2 whole eggs
M2- 2 Tbsp of canola oil, Chicken breast
M3- 150g Lean ground beef(uncooked measure), 1oz cheddar cheese
M4- 1oz cheddar cheese (pre workout.. LOL)
M5- Gainer one scoop ( 50g carb, 10g pro), whey isolate one scoop(25g protein)
M6- Chicken breast salad( 1tbsp of mayo, 1tbsp of Canola oil, chicken breast 150g, romain lettus leaves 2cups)
M7- PB 1.5 Tbsp, or 1Tbsp of Canola oil

I also take glutamine, Multi vitamine and extra C...
Critiquese PLEASE~

the doc
02-28-2001, 09:41 PM
Man, your seriously gonna need some more fibre or your gonna be plugged like a drain full o' cement. I have some experience with this type of diet. I am on a sort of CKD but not really ketogenic. Its a cyclical high fat/protein diet. I try and eat at least a serving of veges in most of my meals. Veges like onions, broccoli, lettuce, celery, and several others are so tough to digest they have essentially no cals but tons of fibre and micronutrients.
I would also switch the canola oil (highly processed) for some cold pressed extra virgin olive oil and/or cold pressed flax oil. Yea i know canola has polyunsat. fats but these less processed oils contain many other powerful antioxidants.
I would dump the pb due to carbs and replace it w/ some broccoli w/ flax oil or equivalent (this can make room for veges). Also, Lean steak is much more thermogenic (energy burning) then grount meat and will help to thin out.

Budiak
02-28-2001, 11:28 PM
Yeah- an awesome source of fiber I've found is a procuct from "La Tortilla factory". They are whole wheat tortillas, a little more rough and less forgiving than regular tortillas, but they only have 3 grams of active carbs, and supply 9 grams of dietary fiber each. They dont taste too bad either.

Budiak
03-01-2001, 04:24 AM
Eric, you asked me some questions in the chat room. I've been doing NHE for 3 days and I've noticed some things. The biggest thing is that I am never ever hungry. I am forgetting to eat! 3 hours pass by and I look at the clock "crap, gotta shovel something in my face." Trust me, i still love food, but its a great feeling to not crave every morsel I eat. The headaches are starting to lessen, and the lethargy is near gone. I'm not going to fudge the initial phase though, I gotta do it to the hilt.

ericg
03-01-2001, 07:43 AM
Thanks Budiak, the info is helpful. I have had some minor headaches, but I really dont know if it because of the diet. I have had NO side effects that I know of. It is starting to make me think that I am not doing something right. I have been watching EVERYTHING that is going into my mouth and the only carb source that I consume is the eggs and cheese (whic adds up to no more than 10g), besides the fiber that I am consuming. I am mixing some flax seed (not the liquid, the powder) into my protein drink after my workout and in the morning which is about 8g fiber total, and 12g carbs (8g is fiber). We will see what hapens I guess. It has been 4 full days that i have been on the diet so it still has some time.

eric

Dabomber
03-01-2001, 08:44 AM
I forgot to add one serving of metamusil(no sugar) in my after workout shake.!!

MissAbs
03-01-2001, 09:28 AM
Dabomer--- Doc gave you some very good advise about your diet.

I would strongly urge you listen and implement what he suggested....

the doc
03-01-2001, 02:36 PM
I understand you may be supp-ing fibre, but sugar free metamucil only has 3g fibre (and 2g of starches (maltodextrin)-HIDDEN CARBS), and this is the typical amt in a serving of veges. I would think that a high prot/fat diet requires intake of as much green veges as possible. Metamucil does not contain the vital micronutrients and antioxidants the veges are full of. Look, i really don't like veges all that much, but hey we don't have to like everything we eat. Food is for making me grow stronger and as long as i can take a good tasting meal every now and then, I'll eat those damn veges and follow em up w/ a swig o flax oil!

Budiak
03-01-2001, 07:09 PM
Doc, you've obviously gotten past the into part of the NHE plan. Read my above description, am I doing it correctly? I am doing well at staying under 20g, and this is day 4. How much weight, if any, did you lose in the into phase? I cant wait until day eight where I can eat a freakin spoonful of PB.
Oh yeah Doc, how is this thing working for you? What do you eat on load days?
(btw are you doing the muscle building plan or the fatloss plan?

Dabomber
03-01-2001, 11:15 PM
Budiak Can u describe what NHE diet is for me?? thanx!

Budiak
03-02-2001, 01:07 AM
Basically the NHE diet is a program of macronutrient cycling, switching between periods of low carb/high fat/protein and periods of high/carb/lowfat/protein. I dont want to give out gritty details because if I had to pay 30 bucks to pay for it I'm sure as hell not going to give out the secrets to anyone else.

Dabomber
03-02-2001, 08:21 AM
oh ok.. so NHE stands for Natural Hormonal Enhancement ( the book).. rite?? oh.. ok..
thanx!.. i might purchase that book... i'm not sure if that's only in US or other place though

Dabomber
03-02-2001, 08:33 AM
i just went to missabs site and well they seems like only ship the books within US..... what am i gana do?....

Budiak
03-02-2001, 11:19 PM
Extique may ship outside of the us.

MWB
03-03-2001, 07:00 AM
Dabomber-Give MissAbs an email and see if you can work something out shipping wise. If not, she might know where you can get it. It's a good book, and probably the easiest diet to stick to that I've ever tried.

Dabomber
03-03-2001, 08:19 AM
Thanks Alot!

MissAbs
03-03-2001, 08:37 AM
I will ship it outside the US for you. Send me an email and we can get it going for you.

Abs

email: MissAbs@missabs.com

Go Stars
03-03-2001, 01:19 PM
Good to see that I am not the only one on NHE!!! This is my 2nd week of cycling.

Dabomber- I also suggest to get the book. You won't be disappointed.

MissAbs
03-03-2001, 01:31 PM
Keep me posted on your results ......

It is really a very good educational tool and book!

http://www.missabs.com/health/faigin.html

Dabomber
03-03-2001, 05:25 PM
I just checked urinalysis and i ****ed out(:P) some ketones........

i felt flat (cuz of low carb), but it's ok... i can feel that i'm loosing fat... fats on my lower back are significantly less than that of before.

Budiak
03-03-2001, 11:19 PM
Hey Gostars, how much, if any weight did you lose in the first week? I feel as if I've lost a bit of fat, but nothing huge. I probably cant tell because I gained so much in my botched attempt at bulking. I've gotten around 20 grams of carbs every day (the most I got in one day is probably 21, it probably doesnt matter much with that small of a variance) and I feel that I've lost some fat, maybe a pound or two, not sure. As i said before my cravings for sugar are totally gone and I'm never starving for my next meal like I always was before. I worked out last night and actually benched 10lbs more than last week, raising my rep weight to 145 (may not be much, but I'm not here because I'm NOT trying to improve), so energy is definitely not a problem. I need to get some ketostix to make sure I
am in ketosis before I start cycling. I hope gnc has them. As well as my TUB of glutamine.
I cant wait to be able to eat all the vegetables I want. I never thought I'd miss broccoli...

MissAbs
03-04-2001, 04:43 AM
Budiak...

Save your money- first of all the NHE diet (lifestyle) is NOT a ketogenic diet. So no sense in testing if you are "in" or not, because as you start you

3/4 cycling, there are enough carbs in it that will most likely keep most people out. Just trying to save ya 15 bucks...

make sure those 20 grams of yours are active carbs- not total carbs....

Budiak
03-04-2001, 11:16 AM
I didnt know it wasnt a ketogenic diet. Eh...I'm so damn cheap I probably wouldnt have bought the things anyways if they were fifteen bucks. If I cant eat it for put it in my computer I wont put more than five bucks into anything.
Its true, I only have two pairs of pants. I've had them since I was 12!

Twiztid
03-04-2001, 03:40 PM
Can somebody explain these diets to me, and what all the abbreviations stand for, and the benefits / purpose of these diets?

I am just trying to learn.. and this post is all greek to me :)

Twiztid

the doc
03-04-2001, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Budiak
Doc, you've obviously gotten past the into part of the NHE plan. Read my above description, am I doing it correctly? I am doing well at staying under 20g, and this is day 4. How much weight, if any, did you lose in the into phase? I cant wait until day eight where I can eat a freakin spoonful of PB.
Oh yeah Doc, how is this thing working for you? What do you eat on load days?
(btw are you doing the muscle building plan or the fatloss plan?

Lost 25 lbs in the first month but i had a lot of easily shed fat/water/glycogen from my prev attempt at bulking. I would like to add that i also enjoy not being driven by hunger and poor eating habits anymore.

Now i am on the muscle building plan and it seems to working as i am feeling good w/ plenty of energy and getting some gains in lifts. more Gains= more muscle. I can tell more about my body's carb state now from experience. You can browse my journal to see what i've been eating. Most of the entries are from the bulking diet but the ideas are similar.
Basicly I try to eat as much low fat carb stuffs as i can without feeling to full like i'm gonna vomit. The difference now is i eat two of these meals in a row to completely replenish glycogen. This seems essential for productive intense workouts.

MissAbs
03-05-2001, 07:26 PM
Budiak= go back and read the chapter on carb cycling-

You are or should be eating at 30-60 grams per day of carbs- so not sure why you are missing the brocolli, you should be eating some...


Go Stars- Send me an email that you posted in that message to me, so I can process it more effectively for you.....


Remember there are two phases to the NHE eating program
1) for fat loss
2) for mass gain

Make sure you are clear on which one you are doing... two completely different styles

Budiak
03-06-2001, 12:46 PM
I'm now in the cycling part of the plan, and I'm doing fine. I was only missing broccoli while I was in the intro part where I couldnt eat as much as I wanted.

Budiak
03-07-2001, 11:33 PM
I just did my first carb load on NHE. I am feeling a bit funky. Here is what I ate

1.5 cups spaghetti
one large potato
2/3 cup sauce
1 tablespoon parmesean cheese

I made sure not to get too much protein. I estimate that I got around 17 grams or so, with about 123 grams of carbs. Little fat, as well, no more than 10-15 grams. I'm starting to feel loopy.

the doc
03-08-2001, 07:15 AM
Budiak, I remember feeling drunk after those first carbs. You should try the massing program. See how you feel after eating 400+ g carbs. I can barely fit them all in and then i'm so f-ucked i can barely walk!

Budiak
03-08-2001, 01:12 PM
400 grams...I dont believe I have ever eaten that many carbs in a day, even while I was bulking(fattening)! Let alone two meals.