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    Groin pain

    Recently I've experienced a lot of pain in my groin area. It's now to the point where it's intolerable and I'm unable to squat or pull with a wide stance. It runs from the top inner portion of my thighs to roughly the hip area. I experience this only when pulling with a sumo stance and squatting with a wide stance. What has caused this and how can I fix this problem?

    Thanks in advance, guys.
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    Try getting some breifs maybe?
    Wide stance is pretty brutal on the hips and they have helped me with hip issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    Try getting some breifs maybe?
    Wide stance is pretty brutal on the hips and they have helped me with hip issues.

    What would be a good first pair of briefs to get? Also, what is the price range generally?

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    I started out with Frantz (they were hand me downs, not by choice) but I think they are pretty good to start with. They aren't crazy with the material in terms of being crazy stiff so I think those are a good place to start. They are all I have used though, but that would be my reccomendation. They aren't too pricey i want to say in the 60-70 dollar range, but could be wrong. Again, mine were used :P.

    I have heard inzer's power pants are similar but I have never tried nor seen them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    Try getting some breifs maybe?
    Wide stance is pretty brutal on the hips and they have helped me with hip issues.
    Briefs would actually help with this issue because they take a lot more stress off the hips? So should I train in briefs for a few weeks straight then test out my raw squat every forth week or so to reduce the amount of stress on my hips? Anyone else have anything to add to this?


    Quote Originally Posted by jbrin0tk View Post
    What would be a good first pair of briefs to get? Also, what is the price range generally?
    I'll be making another thread on this soon if people recommend me getting a pair. Or, make one yourself instead of the hijack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Briefs would actually help with this issue because they take a lot more stress off the hips? So should I train in briefs for a few weeks straight then test out my raw squat every forth week or so to reduce the amount of stress on my hips? Anyone else have anything to add to this?




    I'll be making another thread on this soon if people recommend me getting a pair. Or, make one yourself instead of the hijack.




    No.

    Umm...ok. No need to be rude about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrin0tk View Post
    Umm...ok. No need to be rude about it.
    Lol, don't take offense to that. It was a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Lol, don't take offense to that. It was a joke.
    It's all good, man. No biggie! I was asking because we are in the same boat as far as the groin(although I obviously didn't make that clear), and the subject was brought up. Thanks for clarifying, though, and good luck!

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    Thanks, I'll need it. I've gotten quite a bit of different opinions on this. Is your pain in the same spot as mine and with a wide stance as well? I'm calling a specialist tomorrow and let you know what he tells me. I wanted some opinions from experienced guys on here who've been under the bar who have felt the same thing and what they did to get over it and prevent it down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Thanks, I'll need it. I've gotten quite a bit of different opinions on this. Is your pain in the same spot as mine and with a wide stance as well? I'm calling a specialist tomorrow and let you know what he tells me. I wanted some opinions from experienced guys on here who've been under the bar who have felt the same thing and what they did to get over it and prevent it down the road.
    Yeah, I definitely understand getting the opinions of the big dogs in here. And yes, my pain sounds exactly like what you have. It starts right at the top of my thighs to around the hip area. And it, too, happens when I squat with a wider stance. Pisses me off because I've been trying to widen it out slowly but the groin is acting up again. I've never had problems with it in any other activity, just wide stance squatting. Thanks in advance for sharing the info you get from the specialist. I appreciate that a lot!

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    Keith, dont be mean to other members on the board!

    I pulled my groin snowboarding. I would usually warm up a bit, then follow that with a nice groin stretch. But, I suggest basically taking it easy. It's trying to heal and I doubt squatting is going to do anything but slow the process.

    I'm sure you've Google'd it before. Haven't you found anything on the net?
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    for me, it was the front of my hips, right at the crease if i were to be sitting in a chair. i put on the briefs and i never had that issue again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WORLD View Post
    Keith, dont be mean to other members on the board!

    I pulled my groin snowboarding. I would usually warm up a bit, then follow that with a nice groin stretch. But, I suggest basically taking it easy. It's trying to heal and I doubt squatting is going to do anything but slow the process.

    I'm sure you've Google'd it before. Haven't you found anything on the net?
    **** you.

    This is different from pulling my groin. The area that's sore isn't the area that needs to be treated. I've been doing my research and couldn't find much because there were a bunch of things that were different with similar pain. I've emailed the boys at elitefts. I'll see what they say.


    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    for me, it was the front of my hips, right at the crease if i were to be sitting in a chair. i put on the briefs and i never had that issue again.
    Yeah, the pain isn't there for me. But if the briefs take away a lot of the stress from the hips, maybe it's something I should look into.
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    Copied and pasted from the specialist I talked to:


    From what you described your “cause” is a loss of the transition from form to force closure of the lumbo-pelvic joints. This results in a strain/sprain type of injury to the ilio-lumbar ligament (which embryologically refers pain to the bilateral groin region). The treatment depends upon what is lost. I.E. dysfunction or loss of pelvic stability from the posterior or ventral oblique slings. The hamstrings will always appear to be short but are actually doing the work of the aforementioned slings in an attempt to stabilize the pelvic girdle during nutation and counter nutation motions from below. The second part of this is within the bracing mechanism of the lateral slings which are implicated during the squatting or dead lift motions you are currently doing. Keith this is about a simple as it gets assuming those who read it have a working knowledge of complex human biomechanics and the maintenance of the neutral zone motions of the lumbar spinal and pelvic motion units.



    Now, if only I could understand this...

    He did, however, tell me in order to fix this issue, I'd need to ice my lower back right below the waist line and I'd be out from doing any wide stance lifts for 3-6 weeks.

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    If you want, I'll take a look at your groin at the Toronto meet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    If you want, I'll take a look at your groin at the Toronto meet.
    Are you hitting on him - that's another board I think...

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    Are you hitting on me now?

    If not, I'll take you seriously... for once. I'm not sure what you could look at, though. I passed that message along to the chiro and I'm going to see them again and see what they can do. Other than that, the specialist just recommended that I should ice.

    What do you think about briefs? Do you think they'd take a lot of stress off my hips?
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    You have a groin strain. I have the same thing going on right now. Go see a PT to get some good stretches and rehab for it. If you don't address it, you'll spend months, if not years battling it. The groin is a very touchy area, so take care of it, or you'll be hurting for a long time.

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    "The groin is a touchy area." Rhodes, you are a wordsmith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Are you hitting on me now?
    Maybe...............

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    If not, I'll take you seriously... for once. I'm not sure what you could look at, though. I passed that message along to the chiro and I'm going to see them again and see what they can do. Other than that, the specialist just recommended that I should ice.

    What do you think about briefs? Do you think they'd take a lot of stress off my hips?
    I was just kidding about looking at your groin.... Unless ofcourse you want me to look at your groin, in which case, something can be arranged.

    There's no doubt that briefs or a squat suit take a huge amount of stress off the hips. If you want to get a pair, go for it, but I'd lay off the heavy stuff until this is all sorted out.

    I honestly have no idea what's wrong with you. Does it feel muscular? Or does it feel like a joint problem in the hip ? If the professional says ice it, then ice it. I've had groin pain before, and I treat it the same way I treat pretty much any other pain I get.

    - Hot baths (if you're not screaming, it's not hot enough)
    - Massage, foam rolling, golf ball rolling, etc.
    - Stretching
    - KEEP IT MOVING. Give it time, but keep it active.

    With all that said, listen to your doctor, and more importantly, listen to your body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Copied and pasted from the specialist I talked to:


    From what you described your “cause” is a loss of the transition from form to force closure of the lumbo-pelvic joints. This results in a strain/sprain type of injury to the ilio-lumbar ligament (which embryologically refers pain to the bilateral groin region). The treatment depends upon what is lost. I.E. dysfunction or loss of pelvic stability from the posterior or ventral oblique slings. The hamstrings will always appear to be short but are actually doing the work of the aforementioned slings in an attempt to stabilize the pelvic girdle during nutation and counter nutation motions from below. The second part of this is within the bracing mechanism of the lateral slings which are implicated during the squatting or dead lift motions you are currently doing. Keith this is about a simple as it gets assuming those who read it have a working knowledge of complex human biomechanics and the maintenance of the neutral zone motions of the lumbar spinal and pelvic motion units.



    Now, if only I could understand this...

    He did, however, tell me in order to fix this issue, I'd need to ice my lower back right below the waist line and I'd be out from doing any wide stance lifts for 3-6 weeks.


    Keith, thanks for posting that info. I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    You have a groin strain. I have the same thing going on right now. Go see a PT to get some good stretches and rehab for it. If you don't address it, you'll spend months, if not years battling it. The groin is a very touchy area, so take care of it, or you'll be hurting for a long time.
    It's not a groin strain. It seems that I have some strained/pulled ligaments in the pelvic region. That is causing my groin and upper thighs to be painful when doing anything with a wide stance.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    There's no doubt that briefs or a squat suit take a huge amount of stress off the hips. If you want to get a pair, go for it, but I'd lay off the heavy stuff until this is all sorted out.

    With all that said, listen to your doctor, and more importantly, listen to your body.
    I'm going to look into some briefs. Actually, I'll make a thread about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by jbrin0tk View Post
    Keith, thanks for posting that info. I appreciate it.
    No problem.






    I just got back from the chiro and he agreed with everything that I posted there. I'll be going back for regular treatments but the only thing he recommended me doing at home is ice and a couple of stretches that he gave me to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    It's not a groin strain. It seems that I have some strained/pulled ligaments in the pelvic region. That is causing my groin and upper thighs to be painful when doing anything with a wide stance.
    From the pain you described, it sounds like a groin strain. I pulled my groin playing football this year and I had pain radiate all the way down to my knees. I think your idea of a groin strain is a little bit construed.
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    It's a groin strain.

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