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    Bismarck in Training emjlr3's Avatar
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    Post ACL Surgery Rehab

    Tore my ACL, medial maniscus and level 1 sprained my MCL back in August playing basketball.

    Had surgery September 10th to reconstruct my ACL (using an anterior tibialus tendon allograft) and clean off my maniscus, and have doing rehab since (starting 1.5 days after surgery, ug).

    Currently my routine consists of :

    Everday: stepper, eliptical, stationary bike, stretching, extension/flexion training

    3/4 times a week: lunges, light weight squats, leg curls/extensions, leg press, durband training(around knees or ankles), stability training(1 leg stands, squats on half sphere ,etc.)

    I just started doing an upper body routine again (yesterday), working chest/bis tues, back/tris thurs and shoulders thrown in there somewhere

    Anyway, to my questions:

    Does anyone know of good resources for 3-6 month ACL reconstruction rehab procedures and goals? My surgeon as of last Friday, said what I was doing was good, and that I should just add in the extensions. But I want more!

    Does anyone have personal experience with such an injury?

    Thanks for the help.
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    Tore it October '07...surgery was Nov. '07

    check out this thread I started on the CrossFit site....some pretty good info in there.

    http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=24293

    EDIT: EXTENSIONS...are you ****ing kidding me!? Stop doing those UNLESS you're only doing the last 25-30 degrees of the movement and even then I wouldn't advise them this early on.
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    ill check that out

    Surgeon told me to add extensions - remember I am post 3 months out of surgery - what is your reasoning or resource?
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    Dude, have you been going to a PT?

    And if you haven't, then fail.
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    According to Quick Reference to Physical Therapy (Pauls, J.A. & Reed, K.L., 2004).. 12-24 weeks post-op should consist of "Increase closed kinematic chain exercise, agility, and functional activities, such as running, jumping and cutting, as tolerated. Consider functional brace for sports or work." It also says to have a physiotherapist work along with your surgeon to work with you in the recovery process, and if you don't already have one, you should probably get that taken care of. If you have one, then listen to them and don't ask people online.

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    wtf kind of a comment is that?

    my insurance allowed 40 visits

    4 weeks pre surgery + 2 months post ran that dry

    since then I have been doing it on my own, with my surgeons suggestions and my own research as guidance

    aside from that - I was looking for users past experience w/ the injury - but really though, thanks so much for the help....
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    I'm assuming that is not in reference to my post?

    Well seems like it was, so hope your rehab continues well!

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    Do what needs to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emjlr3 View Post
    ill check that out

    Surgeon told me to add extensions - remember I am post 3 months out of surgery - what is your reasoning or resource?
    I googled "leg extensions after acl repair" and easily found 5+ resources saying to avoid them at all costs. Even with no knee problems, that lift puts a large amount of torque directly on the knee joint. I would avoid it at all costs unless you limit the range of motion to the last 25 degrees as previously stated.

    Ride the bike, do Step-Ups, squats, lunges, leg press, and straight leg raises (and don't neglect those hamstrings)



    If you choose not to listen, good luck to you.
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    no, it was to that ****** response from Karsten up above

    btw : http://media.cybexintl.com/cybexinst...Extensions.pdf
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    You obviously already saw a PT for as long as it was possible for you to do so, insurance is going to be the primary limiting factor but hopefully he/she should have given you what to do/not to do over the next few months and what to expect.

    There is lots of research out there on leg extensions NONE OF IT IS DIFINITIVE. And the fact that that article only included 8 of the many pretty much discredits it as completely one-sided, not to mention the complete bias of a company who's finincial success is determined by the use of extension machines. That being said I use extensions all the time, lol. Regardless, I still wouldnt include extensions at this point in your recovery simply because there are better options. Especially at this point in your recovery. 3-6 months is when your function is improving drastically, pain is decreasing but the graft is the WEAKEST. So be carefull it's very common for people to have a problem at this point. Hamstring strength is vital to stabilizing the tibia, looks like you could add some hammy work.
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    I already do curls and sldls(slight knee bend)- discounting the anaerobic work it gets, along with the indirect stimuli it recieves
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    Oh the last thing i forgot to add is the reason people are such dicks to you as exhibited in this thread is that your a total douche. Try not to act like such a pompous tween spoiled know it all and you wouldnt get such negative responses.
    Last edited by smalls; 12-19-2008 at 09:35 PM.
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    alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
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    where on earth did that come from.....

    i see why most ppl have moved on from this site, comments such as that undoubtly drive ppl away
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    i cant remember what ligament it was that Victor Martinez tore in his knee...but i know that he is curently not doing full range of motion leg extensions. he says that it is too dangerous with his surgery and he is almost a year post injury. he talks about it in last months md.

    i have had several knee operations on both knees and I dont go anywhere near a full leg extension. havent for years. i tore the whole knee muscle in half so mine was a little more complicated then just a ligament tear

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