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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post

    So if you're talking physics... well, you're still wrong.

    Don't post with an attitude if you're a moron. This should be one of our forum rules.

    Alex, you're back man. With all those kind posts you've been putting out lately, I wondered what had happened. Thought maybe you got a dog, or finally got a table at Dorsia's.

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    Don't post with an attitude if you're a moron. This should be one of our forum rules.
    While agreeing with everything you said, Belial, there is one problem:

    Most people who are morons don't know they are morons. Sad but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    Alex, you're back man. With all those kind posts you've been putting out lately, I wondered what had happened. Thought maybe you got a dog, or finally got a table at Dorsia's.


    I made a friend.



    He's gone now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I made a friend.



    He's gone now.

    Why do I now have an image of newspapers on floors and couches and Huey Lewis playing in the background??

    Fuck, fight, or hold the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    Why do I now have an image of newspapers on floors and couches and Huey Lewis playing in the background??
    I don't know...did you dream about it last night?
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    Quote Originally Posted by louies77 View Post
    Well men are stronger than women physically... but women are stronger than men mentally..., Men are stronger than women emotionally....but women are stronger than men sexually... hahaha you dont know? check this is out what Billy Crystal said..
    Where do I even begin with this? Stereotyping is wrong. Let's do the emotional one, since that's my favorite. Did you know men go through more hormonal dips per month than a woman? Women will have one large one once a month while a man can vary day to day. Hormonal dips can affect emotions. Men tend to hold in their emotions and burst later on while women tend to let them out slowly (notice, I did say tend to, I can't speak for everyone). Have you ever noticed that more men than women have anger problems? Hmm... makes you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanche_Soprano View Post
    Stereotyping is wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blanche_Soprano View Post
    Have you ever noticed that more men than women have anger problems?


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    There is always a bit of truth to a stereotype. It's a general statement, that can be applied to the masses, but not to everyone.


    Did you know that many women are raging bitches when they have their period for the month? I bet that makes them more angry then men........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
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    I didn't say all men have anger problems. I was comparing men to women, which is not stereotyping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanche_Soprano View Post
    I didn't say all men have anger problems. I was comparing men to women, which is not stereotyping.
    You're doing it again. Say "men" and "women" generalizes everything and lumps ALL "men" and ALL "women" into the same category, thus stereotyping the group as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    You're doing it again. Say "men" and "women" generalizes everything and lumps ALL "men" and ALL "women" into the same category, thus stereotyping the group as a whole.
    So following your thinking, saying that women can have babies and men don't have breasts would be stereotyping. I'm not saying that all women can have babies, I'm saying that compared to men, women can.

    There is a difference between a scientific study and using the results to find differences and just making flat out statments. I've had to take enough research methods classes to understand this.
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    So following your thinking, saying that women can have babies and men don't have breasts would be stereotyping. I'm not saying that all women can have babies, I'm saying that compared to men, women can.


    There is a difference between a scientific study and using the results to find differences and just making flat out statments. I've had to take enough research methods classes to understand this.
    You were generalizing. Get over it.
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    Elite lifts for men and women ...

    To be elite in the 114 lb weight class, guys have to total 1014 pounds, and women have to total 733 lbs. I'm pretty sure that at 114 lbs women are 4% BF. I think this suggests that 1lb of muscle on a guy may still be stronger than 1lb of muscle on a girl.

    But, then again, there's other possibilities (i.e. proportionally, there's not a lot of female powerlifters ... maybe it's just not that competitive)

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    I think the high levels of testosterone have a lot to do with it. I think that men on average are stronger then women are, because on average men are built bigger and have more muscle mass then women do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBBIRL View Post
    I think the high levels of testosterone have a lot to do with it. I think that men on average are stronger then women are, because on average men are built bigger and have more muscle mass then women do.
    I think even with equal muscle mass, men still have better genetics for strength.

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    Wait... what sex woul dhave a better CNS control then?
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

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    Wait... what sex woul dhave a better CNS control then?
    Being a strong teenager means nothing.

    My wrists hurt, but some people don't have wrists to be sore. My knees have tendinitis, but some people don't have legs to get tendinitis in. I seem to be going backwards with training, yet some people can't even walk let alone lift 400 pounds on a daily basis.

    Dust out the vagina, and keep on lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Wait... what sex woul dhave a better CNS control then?
    Which one do you think? I'll give women more cred on social intelligence but your ancestry and mine is made up of monkey upon monkey who has physically had to kill other monkeys.

    Seriously look at the equivalent weight classes. Men are beating women by double digit percentages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post

    One COULD in fact argue that men's bodies are TECHNICALLY more optimized for maximum strength and efficiency, because really our role in the whole life creation thing is a one-shot deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d'Anconia View Post
    Seriously look at the equivalent weight classes. Men are beating women by double digit percentages.
    Exactly. My best raw bench would be a WR for women, but I know at least a dozen men personally here in Holland alone who are stronger. It's that much of a difference.

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    Um...testosterone? Hormones? Durrr? You're comparing apples and oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottyguy View Post
    Dude, whatever you're smoking, stop now.........
    Well thought out, thoroughly convincing reply!

    This is generally why I don't argue with stupid people. I'm prone to migraines as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanche_Soprano View Post
    So following your thinking, saying that women can have babies and men don't have breasts would be stereotyping. I'm not saying that all women can have babies, I'm saying that compared to men, women can.

    There is a difference between a scientific study and using the results to find differences and just making flat out statments. I've had to take enough research methods classes to understand this.

    Exactly. However, saying "why do you think more men than women have anger problems" is a) a generalization without proof, and anybody who's taken real science knows that psychological surveys are as convincing as... well... generalization without proof, and b) doesn't prove your point, as there are more emotions than just anger.

    Like Scarz said, you WERE generalizing, whether it was apparent to you or not. I never said you were WRONG, just that you were doing the same thing you accused others of.
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    Never EVER make broad sweeping generalizations!

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